Monday, July 21, 2014

The Marvel Super Heroes Podcast Episode 001

Namor the First Marvel

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Face Front, True Believers! It's our double-sized debut edition of The Marvel Super Heroes Podcast, featuring the very first Marvel character, Namor the Sub-Mariner! We'll also be looking at Marvel NOW! announcements, the cartoon from which the podcast takes its name, and Entertainment Weekly's Comic-Con 2014 special's early photos from the future blockbuster film Avengers: Age of Ultron! Fasten your seat belt, faithful friends, for Diabolu Frank, Illegal Machine and Mister Fixit are the madmen at the wheel! Note: We like our language NSFW salty, and there be spoilers here...
  • 00:30 Our chromium collector's special starts with the hosts' personal experience with the Prince of the Blood. Episode art tumblr here.
  • 06:44 The View and fear of a menstruating Thor. More here.
  • 13:36 The Avenging Son under withering criticism.
  • 18:30 The Superior Iron Man NOW! More here.
  • 20:12 Fearsome berth of the Sub-Mariner! The origin story synopsis & commentary.
  • 28:06 The Falcon takes over as Captain America NOW! More here.
  • 30:40 Time for school! Learn the basics about Namor writer/artist/creator Bill Everett and the pre-history of Marvel Comics.
  • 35:27 2014 Avengers NOW! More here.
  • 40:43 The Marvel Super Heroes TV show 101, plus our review of Prince Namor the Sub-Mariner Episode One- "Peril in the Surface World"/ "So Spreads the Net" / "The Unveiling"

  • 46:16 Thoughts on EW's Avengers: Age of Ultron pics. More here.
  • 50:09 The Sub-Mariner's future in the Marvel Cinematic Universe? More here.

  • 53:16 Frank's final thoughts on Namor and looking forward to further episodes, including the subject for next week. Jump to 57:14 for the Marvel Mail Bag, where we respond to (we hope!) every single comment left by listeners of our #0 introductory podcast.

As you can tell, we love a fierce conversation and a pretty picture, so why don't you socialize with us, either by leaving a comment on this page or...


  1. --The energy shield for Sam as Cap would make sense because it would be practically weightless. (Marvel Wikia says Cap's shield weighs 12 pounds.) I agree that the ricocheting should be Steve's thing.

    --Cap's Age of Ultron suit: I agree, it's better. But it's a tad busy and the red and white stripes came out looking odd. Part of me just wishes they could incorporate the traditional scale armor somehow.

    --James Spader as Ultron will be awesome--that was a brilliant casting decision. Benedict Cumberbatch is already in enough franchises.

    --Villains-as-heroes are kind of popular now, so a Namor movie could be relevant if done right. The snobbish/arrogance angle could be cool.

  2. P.S. I apologize for there being so many words in case you will read them out loud next week. Feel free to summarize!

  3. Another great episode, guys... which is weird to say after Episode 1... whatever.

    I'm a huge Namor fan but I have always seen him more as a foil--either as a romantic rival or an outright villain--than a hero deserving of his own title. And I love his green speedo costume; it takes a special brand of cockiness and don't-give-a-fuckiness to walk around like that with the Avengers. We accept characters like Conan and Hercules, otherworldly warrior kings, to strut around in loincloths. I view the Sub-Mariner in the same light as those characters.

    With all that in mind, I don't like how Marvel has tried to rebrand him as one of the X-Men over the last couple years. He's not *that* kind of mutant! Still... He can't pine for Invisible Woman forever, and I think Namor and Emma Frost would be an amazingly enjoyable couple to watch destroy each other. Hot, angry, violent sex interrupted by vicious mind-games and manipulations.

    Henri! Henri was the sleazy Frenchman who tries to steal Woody's girlfriend!

    I think the SUPERIOR IRON MAN story with Tony giving Extremis to other citizens will have horrible unforeseen consequences, and that's the whole point. It's going to parallel Tony's recklessness in AVENGERS: AGE OF ULTRON where Tony creates Ultron to police the world and it goes awry.

    I've also been a fan of The Falcon for years and I don't like that Marvel has made Sam Wilson Captain America. This feels too much like a legacy hero move, like promoting the sidekick to replace the fallen hero in the way Wally West became the Flash, Dick Grayson became Batman, and yes, Bucky Barnes became Captain America. The problem with that is The Falcon isn't a kid sidekick. He's Cap's partner--the lesser of the two, yes, but he had his own established, adult hero identity; turning him into Captain America feels like Marvel saying Falcon wasn't good enough as is.